We have worked together, between: (1995: 2000). I was the moderator of its weekly continuous conference, which was attended by the leaders of the Quranists along with other different intellectuals. We worked together in reforming the Egyptian Education and in reforming the Egyptian elections. Because of these two projects, Ibn Khaldoun Center was shut down, and the Dr. Ebrahim was arrested, and many of my Quranist colleges were also arrested and tortured, and I escaped to the U.S as a political asylee.